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hezekiah
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Changing the International Law of War
October 21, 2009, 7:55PM

Under the cover of the "War against Terror" Israeli Prime minister Benyamin Netanyahu has proposed to start an international lobby to change the rules of War so his, and other Militaries can engage in unlawful actions against civilians, and infrastructure to flush out terrorists. It will also validate the actions of the Israeli, and other Militaries in past actions.

This generally brought the idea to my head:

Should the rules of conduct in War be revised?

Are they too slack, making it hard to combat terrorism?

Are they largely gone unforced when it comes to strong Nuclear armed democracies, because they 'run' the International Community?

Should their be reform to protect Civilians further?





ILLmortal
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 23, 2009, 12:46AM

There should be no laws or rules to war.
Everybody just do whatever the fuck you can!!!

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hezekiah
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 23, 2009, 8:33AM

Surely that's completly mental? It maximises innocent civilian casualties, and will probabaly cause maximum sufferering to Combatants?



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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 23, 2009, 10:00PM

I don't know a whole lot about politics or government affairs, but I do believe that based upon what I have seen in the news, we should definitely rethink what we are doing to combat terrorism and crime, and protect the people more. I'm not sure what should be done or what's missing, but obviously what we have going on isn't working to its fullest potential as terrorism and crime are still rising.

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hezekiah
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 24, 2009, 3:13PM

Terrorism isn't really a US problem anymore, Terrorism is much more centered in Pakistan, Spain, Thailand, The North of Ireland, and Israel.

Terrorist cells in the US and Great Britain are generally controlled, and dealt with.



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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 24, 2009, 7:08PM

Terrorism is a criminal matter, not a military one. So no.



Dante_Tier
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 24, 2009, 9:14PM

"Anyone who clings to the historically untrue — and thoroughly immoral — doctrine that "violence never solves anything" I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."

Human life is not sacred. When you fight a war in which the combatants are mixed in and homogeneous with the civilians, civilians will die. To fight such a war and refuse to harm civilians is the beginning of your failure.

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Dante_Tier
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Re: Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 24, 2009, 9:16PM

On October 24, 2009, 12:13PM, hezekiah said:

Terrorism isn't really a US problem anymore

Terrorist cells in the US and Great Britain are generally controlled, and dealt with.


That's about the stupidest thing I've ever seen on Darkstarlings, and that's saying quite a lot.



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Sgath
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 25, 2009, 12:04AM

What's stupid about that? Given the rise in terrorists cells since the war on terror increased terrorism, there have been very few attacks in US and Great Britain, in fact only 1 successful attack. Considering more people want to kill British and American civilians than ever before, that's an insanely good track record.

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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 25, 2009, 12:40AM

So we should stop looking for them? We should stop fighting international terrorism? We should withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan and allow Iran to take them over?

terrorism is a WORLD problem. It's not confined to one country.

And just because an attack hasn't happened again, doesn't mean they're not trying, just that we're successful in stopping them.

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Sgath
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 25, 2009, 12:46AM

That's what aidan said. Now you are repeating him. We are successful in stopping them. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have only made terrorism worst, not better. So yes, fighting terrorism by preventing the creation of more terrorists would be a great way to protect civilians.

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Dante_Tier
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 25, 2009, 2:50AM

Terrorists aren't created because we are in Afghanistan and Iraq. Terrorists exist because we don't follow sharia law. They will never stop until we are all ruled by fundamentalist islamic cleric governments. And obviously, since that will never happen, they will always exist.

and leaving Afghanistan and Iraq will only serve to allow iran to take them over, and that will help NO ONE.

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ILLmortal
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 25, 2009, 9:29AM

America didn't care about civilians when they dropped the nuke. I don't see why we should now. They can just pick and choose what they want to do. Civilians suck ass anyway, they should be fighting. Surpass the boundaries of human suffering, drop the bombs, hack of heads!

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hezekiah
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Re: Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 25, 2009, 7:58PM

On October 25, 2009, 7:50AM, Dante_Tier said:

Terrorists aren't created because we are in Afghanistan and Iraq. Terrorists exist because we don't follow sharia law. They will never stop until we are all ruled by fundamentalist islamic cleric governments. And obviously, since that will never happen, they will always exist.

and leaving Afghanistan and Iraq will only serve to allow iran to take them over, and that will help NO ONE.


Now that's the most stupid I've ever heard anyone say ever.



hezekiah
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Re: Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 25, 2009, 8:00PM

On October 25, 2009, 12:08AM, nodgene said:

Terrorism is a criminal matter, not a military one. So no.


QFT



hezekiah
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Re: Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 26, 2009, 12:02AM

On October 26, 2009, 1:00AM, Patrick said:

What're you guys even talking about? I've looked around these forums a bit, and I've read a LOT of stupid things. None of these posts even come close to stupid. Perhaps different opinions, but that's it.



It came from the words of Osama Bin Laden himself: US involvement in the Middle East, especially Israel, was the reason they target the US.

For someone to ignore the clear history, and contemporary issues, that cause tension between the US and fundamental Islam, then that someone is stupid.




Sgath
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 26, 2009, 12:51AM

Indeed.

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ImAWhat
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 26, 2009, 11:45AM

Troll, etc.

At any rate, I agree with Aidan and nodgene on most of this stuff.
Terrorism is a criminal matter, not a military one.
So, no.
The desire to outsource everything foreign affairs to the military is an alarming trend that I've noticed.
It isn't just the war on terror that has occurred because of this.
Now they're into nation building, humanitarian aid, all kinds of shit like that.

Not good.

The Pentagon needs to back the fuck off.

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ImAWhat
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 26, 2009, 6:40PM

Actually, a lot of the previous programs that were involved in helping foreign countries have been replaced or lost a lot of "business," as it were.
Which is, of course, what this is all about.
Money.

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hezekiah
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Re: Changing the International Law of War
October 27, 2009, 10:27AM

The Military is kind of perfect for administration of aid, because they're ability to maneuver and reach disaster zones. It's a much better use than killing people.

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